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After a mythology-heavy stretch of episodes we catch our breaths with a blatant remake of "Ice" a stand-alone monster-of-the-week.

Writer: Howard Gordon
Director: David Nutter
Originally aired: November 18, 1994

Synopsis: Reunited once more, Mulder and Scully head to Oregon to investigate the strange death of a volcanologist.

Memorable Quote:
Mulder: Scully? I don't think it's a good idea for you to go.
Scully: Mulder, I appreciate your concern - but I'm ready. I want to work.
Mulder: Well, maybe you should take some time off.
Scully: I've already lost too much time.


Date: 2014-10-10 10:09 pm (UTC)
tree: mulder and scully from 'ice'; text: i want to trust you ([xf] and by trust)
From: [personal profile] tree
allow me to add my firewalker is great! thoughts from two years ago to this conversation: hur.

Date: 2014-10-10 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Hey those some great thoughts! I haven't seen this in so long and you reminded me why I like this one. Now to watch it again...

Date: 2014-10-11 02:10 am (UTC)
wendelah1: (love in black and white)
From: [personal profile] wendelah1
You said most of what I was going to say, and most eloquently. Let me look at my notes, anyway.

It does have a superficial resemblance to "Ice." There's are scientists in an isolated environment, a man has died under mysterious circumstances. But the episode goes in a different direction.

Trepkos is Dark!Mulder, in a way. But Trepkos is a highly respected scientist, a visionary. He sees things that others only dream about, but he's also a recognized authority in his field. I guess Mulder is recognized by MUFON, etc. but his peers at the FBI are openly disdainful. Even Scully challenges nearly every theory he comes up with.

It would be nice to think that Scully is what kept Mulder from going to the dark side but in Trepkos's case, I don't think it was that his lover didn't measure up to him intellectually--after all, he was her thesis adviser--he knew what she was capable of. I think he went off the deep end because he went off his meds. Maybe it's a cliché but I think that's what the writers are going for here.

SCULLY: Do you think the descent somehow triggered his breakdown?

O'NEIL: Well, that's what I thought. And then ... (she walks over to a chest of drawers and removes some pills) ... I found out he stopped taking his pills.

(She hands the pills to Scully.)

SCULLY: Lithium carbonate.

O'NEIL: Yeah, he said that they were polluting his brain. And he said I was polluting his body. I'm scared. I don't want to die here.

If he'd been of sound mind at the time of the initial incident, he might have made different choices. He had no way of knowing for certain how the fungus was spread or who was infected or what the incubation period was. Instead of notifying the authorities, he took it upon himself to purge the world of the contagion--destroying his data, wrecking the equipment, and murdering the other members of his team. He felt responsible for what had happened.

He does a piss-poor job of it, too. He lets Pierce get away. How does Trepkos know he'll come back? He doesn't. Does he call anyone to say there's a guy running around loose who's a ticking time bomb of lethal spores? Nope. He burns Ludwig's body down in the tunnel but after he kills Pierce, Trepkos just abandons his body for the rest of them to find. Was the guy infected or not? Trepkos is off his game because he's off his meds.

There's another difference between Mulder and Scully and Trepkos and Jesse. Mulder and Scully are colleagues, and equals. Jesse is Trepkos's subordinate so it's an unequal power dynamic from the moment they cross the line and become lovers. Mulder and Scully haven't crossed that line but if they did, they would still be friends, and partners. I got the sense that Jesse was pressured into joining the team. Maybe Trepkos didn't want to leave her behind for a whole year, maybe he feared losing her? "He said it would be an adventure." And Trepkos: "I told her it would change her life." By contrast, Mulder is reluctant to take his partner along. It's their first case after her return and recovery. "Scully? I don't think it's a good idea for you to go." No pressure from him at all. On the contrary, it's completely her decision to join him.

Other stuff:

For once, the Cascade Mountain Range is standing in for...the Cascade Mountain Range!

I questioned whether or not Scully would just give in to Mulder's leaving Trepkos behind. I also questioned that she wouldn't see how squirrelly all of the scientists were acting right from the get-go. If it's obvious to the audience at home, it should be just as easily detected by Scully MD.

Scully saving herself from contagion was a fantastic sequence. I remember being genuinely fearful of the outcome the first time through.

I thought this was an unintentionally hilarious moment, too.

O'NEIL: Oh, yeah, well whatever is left of them. First thing he did was destroy all his own work - you know, his field journals, his computer disks. We salvaged what we could, but I don't really think you'll find much in there ... of use, anyway.

Mulder spends two seconds looking through the papers and comes across a page with "NEW LIFE FORM" written and underlined on it.


Date: 2014-10-12 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
May I humbly say there is nothing more to say.

Date: 2014-10-11 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Well, I haven't rewatched this one either yet, but I remember liking it a lot, except for the fact that I'd wished there had been more emphasis on Scully's coming back to work post abduction.

And also, I feel like saying to all the young whippersnappers who think that having cordyceps type fungi as main source of contagion both in video game - the excellent The Last of Us and book - the very very awesome The Girl With All The Gifts - is not a new thing. CC did it twenty years ago. So there. *sticks out tongue*.
OK, because The Boys at 1013 being hopeless frat-boys it looked like they modelled their fungus more after the Phallus impudicus species than an actual cordyceps but still...
Edited Date: 2014-10-11 07:45 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-10-12 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Why are you talking in that scary language? Oh, right, video games...

Date: 2014-10-12 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
PLUS, why does Scully always have to go back to work immediately, no matter what the crisis or complaint? She can't take a couple of days to do vitamins and yoga or read a novel? Her driven work ethic is disagreeing with my sense of the rightness of things. If she doesn't watch herself, she's going to fall in love with that dark, sexy, dangerous dude.

Date: 2014-10-12 06:34 pm (UTC)
fueschgast: (The X-Files)
From: [personal profile] fueschgast
Because of my sieve-like memory, I didn't have anything to say in the favorite-Scully-moments post, but now I've rewatched Firewalker. Scully just picking up Jessie and shutting her in that room was pretty cool. Although it hurts to see Jessie suffer and Scully not doing anything about it. ...Not that she could have helped.

Date: 2014-10-15 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Ooh Lucien Dubenko from ER! Didn't realise he was in this episode.

Scully returning to work straight away I understand. Normal=work and thinking about work and dealing with the issues work throws at you. Much easier than having to deal with feelings and emotions.

I like the fact that Scully saves herself and Mulders concern for her. A good episode that I had forgotten about.


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